In June, AMEX announced it was going to partner with Foursquare nationwide to do some cool discount deals tied to check-ins at some national chains. Then they decided to help out small businesses with a Black Saturday deal. Consumers could:
- Link their Foursquare account to their AMEX card
- Go to a small business with the AMEX deal ($25 off if you purchase $25 or more with your linked card)
- Checkin on Forsquare
- Pay with their AMEX
- Get a $25 credit on their AMEX bill
This was pretty clever and I used the deal at a local pub, Edgewood Tavern. I didn’t have to show my phone to the server or anything, it just happened behind the scenes at AMEX.
However, last night I was at Pure Taqueria in Inman Park (Atlanta) and saw there was a $10 off deal from AMEX if I checked in on Foursquare. I’m in pretty tight with the folks over there, so I asked the GM how he set up the deal with AMEX – were they splitting the discount cost a la Groupon or what.
Here’s the thing. He had no idea the AMEX deal existed. Apparently, it was all on AMEX. What? (inflection should go from low note to high note)
I opened up Foursquare again and started scrolling through all of the local businesses around me. It was like an Oprah moment – everybody had an AMEX deal! After leaving Pure, I went to Savi Urban Market and got a $10 discount on a bottle of wine to celebrate (they had no idea the deal existed either).
What’s going on and why?
So, in it’s simplest form, I’m buying $10 worth of stuff, the business is getting $10 (minus AMEX transaction fees), and I get $10 back. Who’s paying for this and why?
Word on the street is that the program doesn’t drive any revenue to Foursquare, but it represents an initial foray into going “beyond checkins,” an effort that might soon roll in deals from Living Social and Groupon. That will be interesting, but who is paying for the AMEX deal? It seems like AMEX.
I found some insights here and there, but I thought I would add my own.
The arrangement in its current form doesn’t make sense. Foursquare doesn’t generate revenue and AMEX is having to cover the cost of all the discounts. Currently, it only would work for AMEX if the effort increased the number of AMEX users (driving revenue from annual membership fees), increased the frequency users chose their AMEX card over their Visa card (driving revenue from increased transaction fees), and/or dramatically increased the average transaction size for an AMEX user (again, increased transaction fees). Even if the deal included Foursquare sharing user check-in information with AMEX, what would it tell them that they couldn’t already get by tracking other card charges… except maybe if the user checked in at non-businesses like parks and transit stations.
Foursquare gets closer to being able to claim that its online marketing drives consumer behavior and leads to local business revenue. If they gain access to transaction amount data, they get some awesome insights on the value of this marketing. Of course, in my case, I was at two of the businesses uninfluenced by Foursquare… but my new bottle of wine was effective marketing. Also, Foursquare needs to generate some revenue from all of this.
The Future of Foursquare
Here is my prediction about where all of this is going. Foursquare is striving to be the clearinghouse of location based deals. It will remain focused on doing everything it can to gain adoption by users and then aggregate local business deals from whomever can make them – AMEX, Groupon, Living Social, local news papers, etc. Foursquare gets to focus on technology and lets all of these other guys field the sales force.
AMEX (and potentially other credit cards) will move away from eating the cost for their local deals and begin generating revenue from local businesses paying for these promotions – similar to the daily deals sites. This will be a marketing cost for the local business, but with Foursquare in the loop, they will gain more insight to user behavior, such as:
- Was the deal redeemed by a new visitor or returning visitor (in Foursquare terms, a Newbie checkin) – works regardless of who sold the deal to the business
- Did new customers redeeming the deal ever return (tracked through subsequent checkins) – works regardless of who sold the deal to the local business
- Automated tracking of average customer spend, lifetime value, etc tied to the credit card (in AMEX’s case), regardless of what POS they use – only works if a credit card company sold the deal to the local business
That is pretty Rock and Roll!



Class action lawsuit against Yelp
Over the past year or so, there have been a lot of complaints about Yelp using questionable business tactics when soliciting businesses for advertising dollars. It looks like some businesses have decided that these tactics go to far. TechCrunch announced that two law firms – Beck Lee from Miami and The Westin Firm in San Diego have filed a class action lawsuit against Yelp for unfair business practices.
Quick Yelp Overview
For people that don’t know, Yelp is a “local search” site that allows users to review businesses. Kinda like a yellow pages where people post comments on their experiences. Users can search for a business – like an Italian restaurant in Atlanta – find results and see the business’ profile along with all of the reviews that business has received. Each review is tied to a registered user with their picture and a little bit of personal information about them, which gives business owners a way to better understand who the reviewers are. Users of Yelp build credibility in the system through these reviews that are rated by other users as funny, cool, useful, etc.
Why businesses like Yelp
Businesses seem to like Yelp because there are a ton of people using it, it provides them with feedback, but mostly Yelp lets them advertise. In that search for Italian restaurants mentioned above, at the top of the list will appear a restaurant that is paying Yelp for sponsored ads. As a user browses the site, additional sponsored ads appear on the right side of the page. Yelp provides businesses with information on the number of people that visit their Yelp profile which presumably translates into “butts in seats.”
Why businesses don’t like Yelp
The biggest reason businesses don’t like Yelp is because they sometimes get bad reviews and these are visible to anyone that visits the site. One can convincingly argue that people are entitled to their opinion and Yelp is simply providing a venue for those opinions to be expressed so that other people might make better informed decisions.
For a long time, businesses just had to take the negative reviews. Then Yelp allowed businesses to respond directly to a reviewer to try to address complaints in private. This led to some abuses as users posted negative comments in hopes that business owners would bribe them into changing the review. Last summer, however, Yelp started letting business owners respond in public to reviews. This was a little better, but businesses still don’t like negative comments (obviously). Rooz Cafe in Oakland even created a “No Yelper” policies.
Why are businesses accusing Yelp of “Extortion”?
There are a couple of reasons for this. A minor one that is frequently mentioned is that Yelp will show ads from your competitor’s business (who are paying) on your non-paying business’ profile. This practice isn’t that egregious, though and I think is up for debate.
The biggest reason stems from complaints from multiple businesses, the accusation that Yelp offers to squash bad reviews if they pay for ads (see the comments section on the TechCrunch article to get a feel for this). The business story generally goes something like this:
I had some negative reviews on Yelp and was contacted by a Yelp sales person that said if I paid $300 per month for advertising, those reviews would disappear.
That’s what all of the hullabaloo is about … these alleged sales calls.
Is all of this just business owners that are so upset about bad reviews they are making wild accusations or errant sales people within Yelp offering benefits off script? Maybe, but a quick search of Yelp extortion turns up a lot of results, dating back to 2008:
http://www.switched.com/2010/02/25/yelp-embroiled-in-bribery-extortion-and-defamation-dispute/
http://www.eastbayexpress.com/eastbay/yelp-extortion-allegations-stack-up/Content?oid=1176984
http://consumerist.com/2009/03/more-business-owners-accuse-yelp-of-review-extortion.html
http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2008/11/is_yelp_extorting_san_fran_bus.php
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/13/yelp_sales_pitch/
There is even a website dedicated to the topic:
http://www.yelpscam.com/press.html
Community Question
Yelp tries hard to present itself as a place to get quality reviews – their tagline is “Real People. Real Reviews.” Although, I guess that is still true, even if some of those reviews are removed. But the community question is: If these allegations are true, even if Yelp is not what we might want it to be, are they guilty of extortion?
Let me know what you think and tell me about your experiences with Yelp – good, bad or neutral.